1.09.2009

Brainstorming (Long One)

Sofie's still struggling with her feedings. She has okay days and bad days with the bottle. An okay day is 13 ounces and a bad day is 5 ounces. We're way off track from where we were a couple of weeks ago and her weight is falling, so we've got to figure out what's going on and fix it. We sat down with Dana yesterday to brainstorm what could be going on and came up with a couple of things to try to get her back on track. Here are the concerns/possibilities we discussed...

(Sorry, I'm thinking "on paper" here, and it's long, so if you want to skip to the last two paragraphs you'll get all the important parts.)

1) Another reherniation - always a possibility, unfortunately. The good thing is that Sofie already has a surgery clinic follow up scheduled with Dr. S.P. on Tuesday of next week, with a chest xray just prior to the appt. If the chest xray is questionable, or just because she's been sneaky before, I may request a CT just to put my mind at ease that we aren't dealing with another recurrence. Her xrays were so deceiving before her last surgery. She'd been reherniated for a long time and had several xrays that didn't show stomach or bowel herniated, but the CT showed everything and what a difference! Lots of bowel and her entire stomach had been herniated into her chest and wasn't seen on xray. Her xrays are now used for teaching purposes at Children's to show how deceiving an xray can be. It's not a good thing to be so bizarre that you're used for teaching.

Things that make me think she could have another recurrence:
  • Pain - When we visited family at Thanksgiving we took her jumper, which she LOVES jumping in. She can really go to town in it. The first half of the week she'd jump like crazy in it until we'd take her out after 10-15 minutes to keep her from burning too many calories. Then later in the week when we'd put her in it, she'd start jumping and cry out sometimes like she was in pain. She'd keep jumping, but not as wildly as before, so we'd take her out. I thought maybe she'd just jumped too much in it earlier in the week and either her muscles were sore or maybe she tweaked a joint somewhere? But maybe she was hurting somewhere internally from another recurrence starting? Could it be the recurrence started then, like the margin of diaphragm tore away, but then nothing actually herniated through until recently, causing her to start refusing the bottle?
  • Throwing up - Before her most recent surgery, she would throw up after NG feeds. Thanksgiving week she was still getting NG feeds and she started throwing up after them again. (She hadn't thrown up since her surgery.) She also had a cold at that time and was drooling quite a bit. It's not uncommon for kids to cough, gag, or throw up when they're teething/drooling a lot or when they have a cold with postnasal drip - we attributed the throwing up to these things, but any new throwing up is always a red flag for us, since her only symptoms of reherniation have been throwing up after NG feeds and refusing to eat. After that week she stopped throwing up, but we also stopped giving NG feeds when we started the NG weaning the first week of December. Last week when we did a couple of days of NG feeds again, she threw up after one of them (a 6 oz feeding). But she could have just thrown up because her stomach has shrunk over the last month and 6 oz was too much for her.
  • Diminished lung sounds - Her lung sounds are diminished over her left lower lobe. But they kind of always are, because that lung is hypoplastic and dysplastic. But there hasn't been a change in her lung sounds since surgery, which is reassuring.
  • Refusing the bottle - She first started refusing the bottle back in July when she had her first recurrence.

Things that make me think she hasn't had another recurrence:

  • No change in lung sounds.
  • No change in respiratory status or work of breathing.
  • Consistently sats 95-97% on room air, sometimes 100% on room air. (But remember she was satting 98% with her first recurrence in July, and her left lung was completely collapsed. She's a toughy.)
  • She can tolerate a 6 oz. bolus of Pedialyte over 15-20 minutes and has never seemed uncomfortable or distended, and has never thrown up after an NG Pedialyte bolus. In theory, wouldn't 6 oz of anything make her throw up if reherniation were the issue?

2) Air Hunger - Does she work too hard to breathe and eat and need supplemental oxygen for feedings? Her PO feeding started going downhill the weekend after Christmas. So what changed that week? Two things. One being we took her off oxygen, since we got our own sat monitor. To test this theory I put her back on oxygen for a full day or so and those days were actually her very worst days for PO feeding, so I ruled out air hunger as the cause for her decline.

3) Reflux. The only other thing we changed the week of Christmas was her meds. We took her off Prilosec and have just been giving her Zantac. It could be her reflux is worse than we thought. Even though she's not arching or throwing up or showing any signs of pain when eating or after she eats, she could still be refluxing into her lower esophagus and having pain. Remember she's a toughy and doesn't always show when she's hurting. She was reherniated from July-November and people always remarked how happy she was when they saw her. She very rarely cries, but I can't imagine it feels too awesome to have your diaphragm tear away and your stomach flipped up into your chest. I noticed when we had her on the continuous sat monitor this week that when she eats her heart rate goes way up to 160's-170's. It's usually around 110. Is she in pain when she's eating because she's refluxing? She'll usually only take around 2 to 2 1/2 ounces at each feeding, even when she was doing really well with the bottle. Could that be the point at which she starts to reflux, so she stops? Or is it because her stomach has shrunk over the last month and it only takes that amount for her to start to feel full? Since this is the only other thing besides taking off the oxygen that we changed, I'm strongly leaning toward reflux as the culprit.

4) Stress related to aversion. Is she stressed when she eats because of her psychological aversion to the bottle? Her aversion started when she was aspirating. Is she still nervous about aspirating when she's eating? She has always been a noisy eater, clicking and smacking after every suck. She has a high palate due to being intubated for so long and seems to still have a little trouble organizing her oromotor skills at the back of her mouth when drinking from the bottle. She also has a short frenulum. Short frenulum+high palate+history of aspiration...I can see why she might be stressed and working extra hard. Does she still have so many negative associations with eating and pain from when she first reherniated, that she's stressed about the anticipation of pain when she eats? She does seem stressed sometimes when she's eating and "plays" with her hair, sometimes pulling it. Could be stress related to pain from reflux.

5) Finally hungry, but not hungry enough. I definitely think her hunger mechanism is returning. She wakes up now every night around 1:00 am for a bottle. She never did this before. She also gets whiny during the day when she's hungry, and never used to before we started weaning the NG. She's definitely making the hunger connection. Since we abandoned the old plan of NG feeds Q 3 hours last week, she is much better about wanting the bottle again. The last couple of days she seems like she's back to having a regular hunger cycle, and when she gets hungry she wants the bottle, pulls it to her mouth, and takes her 2 ounces. She hasn't fought the bottle once since Tuesday. So she does get hungry and she does eat, just not very much. Why? Stomach is small so she gets full on a small amount? Refluxing so she can't tolerate a larger amount? When we saw Dr. Y. in December he said if she was struggling with feeding we could consider an appetite stimulant. Dana had the same idea. They both suggested Periactin (cyproheptadine). It's an antihistamine with a side effect of increasing appetite. It's used for this purpose in patients with cancer and anorexia. Dr. Y. said he's used it with several of his patients. My main concern was that if it did work and then we stopped it, would she have a rebound effect? Both Dr. Y. and Dana said they've never observed a rebound effect with it.

So after all that discussion, we decided on this plan of action: We think reflux is the culprit and have decided to restart her Prilosec. I started it last night (Thursday). Dr. Y. said to give it 5-7 days to see if it helps. Then we'll most likely start her on Periactin, the appetite stimulant to encourage her to start chowing down and get used to eating larger amounts. We think she needs both, but why encourage her to eat more until her reflux is under control - that's just mean. And if we start both at the same time, we can't evaluate how each of them helped. So it's Prilosec for a week, then we'll check in with Dr. Y. before starting the Periactin. Sofie will also see Dr. S.P. for a surgical follow up and xray on Tuesday to rule out any issues with recurrence.

**Oxygen Update** The trial went well with the sat monitor from Apria. They'll pick it up on Monday, download all the recorded info, send it to Dr. R. at the Special Care Clinic, and then she'll decide if Sofie can officially come off oxygen. In the meantime she's still on oxygen until we get the order to discontinue it.



5 Responses:

Aep said...

I am sorry you all are struggling again, this can be very frustrating and Sofie and you guys are doing an awesome job.
Just wanted to let you know some info on the periactin. Marco has been on and off the periactin for 9 or so months. It does work for Marco and within the first couple of doses he is hungrier and also intaking more volume. It does make him sleepy. But I have also noticed that after 6-8 weeks on it the effects are very minimal. Also he becomes agitated and irritable. Once we wean him off those side effects are gone so I have attributed them to the periactin. His surgeon and GI said that kids do get used to it and to wean him off when we don't see much effect give him some weeks without it and then restart. My mom used periactin with my brother 40 years ago (I know long time and I guess they still don't have a lot of appetite stimulants) :) and she noticed the same sleepiness and then jittery effects. Just wanted to let you know that has been our experience with Periactin. Marco's GI also said that he has seen Periactin help with reflux.
I hope you guys find a good solution!!!
Hugs,
Ana

Brad, Kellie, Lucy and Baby Carter said...

Your post sounds just like what we're going through now with Carter. We had a meeting this week to discuss why he's having so much trouble taking the bottle now when he was doing so well a few weeks ago. The consensus for now is that it's reflux. I got them to do a chest xray which was fine, but I'm wondering if I should request a CT. He seems to be in a lot of pain when you sit him up.

I hope you figure it out soon. I can't imagine how frustrating it is to still be doing this a year from now.

Vicki Jensen said...

Jen,
To read your post it sounds so much like what we're going through with Jack now! The only exception is that he acts super hungry but can/will only take a little bit of his bottle. He doesn't want solids either. He is crying SO MUCH lately too. We restarted him on prevacid and that seems to help with the reflux and vomiting. I wonder if he's also vomiting less because he's hardly eating? On his recent CXR it was suspicious for a reherniation OR a bulge in the gortex patch. I think as a parent you know when something just isn't right. Anyway, our plan is to continue and monitor his weight (he's lost almost a pound since Thanksgiving!). I'm sure you know they try to avoid repeated repairs b/c of scar tissue, etc but I'm worried. I didn't realize Sofie's reherniation last time was so bad and they didn't see it by CXR! That scares the poop out of me!

Good luck with Sofie. I'm always thinking of you guys!
Vic

gail said...

Hi Jennifer,
I sure hope you get the answer you are wanting from the Dr. visit.I'm praying she doesn't have to go thru another surgery. She is such a sweet little girl. All of you are in my thoughts and prayers. Take care
Love Aunt Gail

Elizabeth said...

I'm hoping the meds work and it isn't a reoccurace of a herniation.

Can relate to being used for teaching purposes - they show Cecilia's ultrasound and xrays for teaching purposes...